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		<title>&#8216;Allah&#8217; banned</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Malaysian leaders in all their infinite wisdom have banned the use of the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; by non Muslims, especially in publications.  The reason for the ban is the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; is exclusively for use by Muslims and Islam.
In Malaysia, Muslims are easily confused.  If Christians in their Malaysia language publication use the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Malaysian leaders in all their infinite wisdom have <a href="http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=84871" target="_blank">banned the use of the term &#8216;Allah&#8217;</a> by non Muslims, especially in publications.  The reason for the ban is the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; is exclusively for use by Muslims and Islam.</p>
<p>In Malaysia, Muslims are easily confused.  If Christians in their Malaysia language publication use the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; to refer to Almighty God, they are deemed to have an agenda.  An nefarious agenda to confuse the minds of Muslims whereby the term &#8216;Allah&#8217; is used to make them leave Islam and follow the Allah of the Catholics.</p>
<p>It does not matter at all to the Malaysian leaders that the word Allah has been existence in the Middle-East long before the advent of Islam.  It does not matter to the Malaysian leaders that the word Allah has its roots in the Aramaic word &#8216;alaha&#8217;.  It does not matter to the Malaysian leaders that even Sikhs use the term Allah in their holy Sciptures to refer to a supreme diety.  It does not matter to the Malaysian leaders that elsewhere in the world, especially in the Middle East, the word Allah is used by religions other than Islam, and does not cause any confusion or controversy.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that the Malaysian government banned the Iban language Bible (an ethnic race and language in Malaysia) for its use of Allah and other words that are similarly found in the Quran.  That ban was reversed and one wonders if the government will eventually ban the Iban language again for its use of Allah.</p>
<p>I am not opposed to Christians using another word other than Allah when referring to Almighty God, but I do not want Christians and other faiths to lose this debate just because the government says so.  The government has no business telling Catholics and other faiths that the word Allah is solely Islam&#8217;s.  If they think that Muslims in Malaysia might be confused, then whoever is charge of their religious teachings should explain and teach them that Islam does not have a monopoly where the word Allah is concerned.</p>
<p>It is hard to imagine that in the 21st century the Malaysian government cares more about whether or not the word Allah used by non Muslims is going to cause confusion when the focus should be the future of Malaysia&#8217;s  economic competitiveness in the S.E. Asian region, and that Malaysia be seen as a model of democracy and multi-culturalism.</p>
<p>The Muslim leaders in the Malaysian government are the ones doing the confusing.  Confusing the rest of the non-Muslim population as to the objective and motivation of this ban in the first place.</p>
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		<title>The Jesus of the Koran</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A paritcipant at Yahoo Answers Religion and Spirituality section claims that only the Koran has the complete picture of Jesus Christ. According to him, the Bible does not contain an accurate account of the person Jesus Christ.
The following is part of an article found on Answering Islam website.
‘Isa&#8217; not an historical figure
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>A paritcipant at Yahoo Answers Religion and Spirituality section claims that only the Koran has the complete picture of Jesus Christ. According to him, the Bible does not contain an accurate account of the person Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>The following is part of an <a href="http://answering-islam.org.uk/Intro/islamic_jesus.html" target="_blank">article</a> found on Answering Islam website.</p>
<p><em>‘Isa&#8217; not an historical figure</em></p>
<p align="justify">The Qur’an’s ‘Isa is not an historical figure. His identity and  role as a prophet of Islam is based solely on supposed revelations to Muhammad  over half a millennium after the Jesus of history lived and died.</p>
<p><em>Jesus’ name was never ‘Isa&#8217;</em></p>
<p align="justify">Jesus’ mother tongue was Aramaic. In his own lifetime he was  called <em>Yeshua</em> in Aramaic, and <em>Jesu</em> in Greek. This is like calling  the same person John when speaking English and Jean when speaking French:  <em>Jesu</em>, pronounced &#8220;Yesoo&#8221;, is the Greek form of Aramaic <em>Yeshua</em>.  (The final -s in <em>Jesu-s</em> is a Greek grammatical ending.) <em>Yeshua</em> is  itself a form of Hebrew <em>Yehoshua’</em>, which means ‘the Lord is salvation’.  However Yehoshua’ is normally given in English as <em>Joshua</em>. So Joshua and  Jesus are variants of the same name.</p>
<p align="justify">It is interesting that Jesus&#8217; name <em>Yehoshua’</em> contains  within it the proper Hebrew name for God, the first syllable <em>Yeh-</em> being  short for YHWH ‘the LORD’.</p>
<p align="justify">Yeshua of Nazareth was never called <em>‘Isa</em>, the name the  Qur’an gives to him. Arab-speaking Christians refer to Jesus as <em>Yasou’</em>  (from <em>Yeshua</em>) not <em>‘Isa</em>.</p>
<p><em>Jesus did not receive a ‘book’</em></p>
<p align="justify">According to the Qur’an, the ‘book’ revealed to ‘Isa was the  <em>Injil</em>. The word <em>Injil</em> is a corrupted form of the Greek  <em>euanggelion</em> ‘good news’ or <em>gospel</em>. What was this  <em>euanggelion</em>? This was just how Jesus referred to his message: as good  news. The expression <em>euanggelion</em> did not refer to a fixed revealed text,  and there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus received a ‘book’ of revelation  from God.</p>
<p><em>The ‘gospels’ of the Bible are biographies</em></p>
<p align="justify">The term <em>euanggelion</em> later came to be used as a title  for the four biographies of Jesus written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the  ‘gospels’. This was a secondary development of meaning. Apparently this is where  Muhammad got his mistaken idea of the <em>Injil</em> being a ‘book’.</p>
<p align="justify"><em>Most so-called prophets of Islam received no book</em></p>
<p align="justify">Virtually all of the so-called ‘prophets’ of Islam, whose names  are taken from the Hebrew scriptures, received no ‘book’ or law code. For  example, the Psalms are not a book revealing Islam, as the Qur’an claims, but a  collection of songs of worship, only some of which are David’s. There is not a  shred of evidence in the Biblical history of David that he received a book of  laws for the Israelites. They already had the Torah of Moses to follow. So David  was not a prophet in the Qur’an’s sense of this word. Likewise most of the  prophets claimed by Islam were neither lawgivers nor rulers.</p>
<p><em>Biblical prophecy and Islamic prophecy are not the same thing</em></p>
<p align="justify">The Biblical understanding of prophecy is quite different from  Muhammad’s. A Biblical prophecy is not regarded as a passage from a heavenly  eternally pre-existent text like the Qur’an, but a message from God for a  specific time and place. A biblical prophet is someone to whom God reveals  hidden things, and who then acts as God’s verbal agent. When a Samaritan woman  called Jesus a prophet (John 4:19) it was because he had spoken about things in  her life that he could only have known supernaturally. Christianity teaches that  Jesus was a prophet, but he brought no ‘book’: he himself was the living ‘Word  of God’, a title used of ‘Isa in the Qur’an.</p>
<p align="justify">By no means all prophecies referred to in the Bible became part  of the Biblical text. The Bible consists of a wide variety of materials  originally written for many different purposes, including letters, songs, love  poetry, historical narratives, legal texts, proverbial wisdom as well as  prophetic passages. These are regarded as inspired by God, but not dictated from  a timeless heavenly book.</p>
<p><em>As prophetic history, the Qur’an contains many errors and  anachronisms</em></p>
<p align="justify">The claim that Jesus was not executed by crucifixion is without  any historical support. One of the things that all the early sources agree on is  Jesus’ crucifixion.</p>
<p align="justify">Mariam the mother of ‘Isa is called a sister of Aaron, and also  the daughter of Aaron’s father ‘Imran (Hebr. Amram). Clearly Muhammad has  confused Mary (Hebr. Miriam) with Miriam of the Exodus. The two lived more than  a thousand years apart!</p>
<p align="justify">In the Bible Haman is the minister of Ahasuerus in Media and  Persia (The Book of Esther 3:1-2). Yet the Qur’an places him over a thousand  years earlier, as a minister of Pharoah in Egypt.</p>
<p align="justify">The claim that Christians believe in three Gods — Father, son  Jesus and mother Mary — is mistaken. The Qur’an is also mistaken to claim that  Jews say Ezra was a son of God. (At-Taubah 9:30) The charge of polytheism  against Christianity and Judaism is ill-informed and false. (Deuteronomy 6:4,  James 2:19a)</p>
<p align="justify">The story of the ‘two horned one’ (Al-Kahf 18:82 cf also Daniel  8:3, 20-21) is derived from the Romance of Alexander. Certainly Alexander the  Great was no Muslim.</p>
<p align="justify">The problem with the name ‘Isa has already been discussed.  Other Biblical names are also misunderstood in the Qur’an, and their meanings  lost. For example Elisha, which means ‘God is salvation’, is given in the Qur’an  as <em>al-Yash’a</em>, turning <em>El</em> ‘God’ into <em>al-</em> ‘the’. (Islamic  tradition did the same to Alexander the Great, calling him <em>al-Iskandar</em>  ‘the Iskander’). Abraham ‘Father of many’ (cf Genesis 17:5) might have been  better represented as something like <em>Aburahim</em> ‘father of mercy’ instead  of Ibrahim, which has no meaning in Arabic at all.</p>
<p align="justify">The Qur’an has a Samaritan making the golden calf, which was  worshipped by the Israelites in the wilderness (Ta Ha 20:85) during the Exodus.  In fact it was Aaron (Exodus 34:1-6). The Samaritans did not exist until several  centuries later. They were descendants of the northern Israelites centuries  after the Exodus.</p>
<p align="justify">Many Qur’anic stories can be traced to Jewish and Christian  folktales and other apocryphal literature. For example a story of Abraham  destroying idols (As-Saffat 37) is found in a Jewish folktale, the Midrash  Rabbah. The Qur’anic story of Zachariah, father of John the Baptist, is based  upon a second-century Christian fable. The story of Jesus being born under a  palm tree is also based on a late fable, as is the story of Jesus making clay  birds come alive. Everything the Qur’an says about the life of Jesus which is  not found in the Bible can be traced to fables composed more than a hundred  years after Jesus’ death.</p>
<p align="justify">Jesus’ titles of Messiah and Word of God, which the Qur’an  uses, find no explanation in the Qur’an. Yet in the Bible, from which they are  taken, these titles are well integrated in a whole theological system.</p>
<p align="justify">The Qur’an mentions the Holy Spirit in connection with Jesus,  using phrases which come from the gospels. Ibn Ishaq (<em>Life of Muhammad</em>)  reports Muhammad as saying that this ‘Spirit’ was the angel Gabriel (cf also  An-Nahl 16:102, Al-Baqarah 2:97). However the Biblical phrase ‘Spirit of God’  (Ruach Elohim) or ‘Holy Spirit’ can only be understood in light of the Hebrew  scriptures. It certainly does not refer to an angel.</p>
<p align="justify">Jesus’ alleged foretelling of Muhammad’s coming (As-Saff 61:6)  appears to be based on a garbled reading of John 14:26, a passage which in fact  refers to the Spirit.</p>
<p align="justify">The Hebrew scriptures were Jesus’ Bible. He affirmed their  authority and reliability and preached from them. From these same scriptures he  knew God as <em>Adonai Elohim</em>, the Lord God of Israel. He did not call God  <em>Allah</em>, which appears to have been the name or title of a pagan Arabian  deity worshipped in Mecca before Muhammad. Muhammad&#8217;s pagan father, who died  before Muhammad was born, already bore the name <em>‘Abd Allah</em> ‘slave of  Allah’, and his uncle was called <em>Obeid Allah</em>.</p>
<p align="justify">We read that An-Najm 53:19-23 seeks to refute the pagan Arab  belief that Allah had daughters named al-Uzza, al-Ilat and Manat. (See also  An-Nahl 16:57 and Al-An’am 6:100).</p>
<p align="justify">The Biblical narratives are rich with historical details, many  confirmed by archaeology. They cover more than a thousand years, and reveal a  long process of technological and cultural development. In contrast the Qur’an’s  sacred history is devoid of archaeological support. Its fragmentary and  disjointed stories offer no authentic reflection of historical cultures. No  place name from ancient Israel is mentioned, not even Jerusalem. Many of the  supposed historical events reported in the Qur’an have no independent  verification. For example we are told that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba  in Mecca (Al-Baqarah 2:127), but this is totally without support. The Biblical  account, more than a thousand years older, does not place Abraham anywhere near  Arabia.</p>
<p><em>The Qur’an is not a credible source for Biblical history</em></p>
<p align="justify">The Qur’an, written in the 7<sup>th</sup> century AD, cannot be  regarded as having any authority whatsoever to inform us about Jesus of  Nazareth. It offers no evidence for its claims about biblical history. Its  numerous historical errors reflect a garbled understanding of the Bible.</p>
<p><strong>Islam appropriates the history of Judaism and Christianity to  itself</strong></p>
<p align="justify">When Muhammad linked the name of <em>Allah</em> to the religious  histories of Judaism and Christianity, this was a way to claim them for Islam.  In the light of later events, the claim that Islam was the original religion,  and that all preceding prophets were Muslims, can be regarded as an attempt to  appropriate the histories of other religions for Islam. The effect is to rob  Christianity and Judaism of their own histories.</p>
<p align="justify">Consider that many Biblical sites, such as the tombs of the  Hebrew Patriarchs and the Temple Mount, are claimed by Islam as Muslim sites,  not Jewish or Christian ones. After all, the Qur’an tells us that Abraham ‘was a  Muslim’. Under Islamic rule all Jews and Christians were banned from such  sites.</p>
<p><em>The place of the Jewish scriptures in Christianity is completely different  from the place of the Bible in Islam</em></p>
<p align="justify">There is a fundamental difference between Christian attitudes  to the Jewish scriptures and Islamic attitudes to the Bible. Christians accept  the Hebrew scriptures. They were the scriptures of Jesus and the apostles. They  were the scriptures of the early church. The whole of Christian belief and  practice rests upon them. Core Christian concepts such as ‘Messiah’ (Greek  ‘Christos’), ‘Spirit of God’, ‘Kingdom of God’ and ‘salvation’ are deeply rooted  in the Hebrew Biblical traditions.</p>
<p align="justify">We note also that Christian seminaries devote considerable  effort to studying the Hebrew scriptures. This is an integral part of training  for Christian ministry. The Hebrew scriptures are read (in translation) every  Sunday in many churches all around the world.</p>
<p align="justify">In contrast Islam’s treatment of the Bible is one of complete  disregard. Although it purports to ‘verify’ all earlier prophetic revelation,  the Qur’an is oblivious to the real contents of the Bible. The claim that  Christians and Jews deliberately corrupted their scriptures is made without  evidence, and this only serves to cover up the Qur’an’s historical inadequacies.  Muslim scholars rarely have an informed understanding of the Bible or of  biblical theology and so remain ignorant of these realities.</p>
<p><em>Some contemporary Muslim voices on Jesus</em></p>
<p align="justify">Yasser Arafat, addressing a press conference at the United  Nations in 1983 called Jesus &#8220;the first Palestinian fedayeen who carried his  sword&#8221; (i.e. he was a freedom fighter for Islam).</p>
<p align="justify">Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi, employee of the Palestinian Authority,  broadcast live in April 2002 on Palestinian Authority television: &#8220;The Jews  await the false Jewish messiah, while we await, with Allah&#8217;s help&#8230; Jesus,  peace be upon him. Jesus&#8217;s pure hands will murder the false Jewish messiah.  Where? In the city of Lod, in Palestine.&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">Author Shamim A. Siddiqi of Flushing, New York put the  classical position of Islam towards Christianity clearly in a recent letter to  Daniel Pipes, New York Post columnist:</p>
<blockquote>
<p align="justify">&#8220;Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad were all prophets of  Islam. Islam is the common heritage of the Judeo-Christian-Muslim community of  America, and establishing the Kingdom of God is the joint responsibility of all  three Abrahamic faiths. Islam was the din (faith, way of life) of both Jews and  Christians, who later lost it through human innovations. Now the Muslims want to  remind their Jewish and Christian brothers and sisters of their original din  [religion]. These are the facts of history.&#8221;</p>
</blockquote>
<p align="justify">This historical negationism — appearing to affirm Christianity  and Judaism whilst in fact rejecting and supplanting them — is a lynchpin of  Muslim apologetics. What is being affirmed is in fact neither Christianity nor  Judaism, but Jesus as a prophet of Islam, Moses as a Muslim etc. This is  intended to lead to ‘reversion’ of Christians and Jews to Islam, which is what  Siddiqi refers to when he speaks of ‘the joint responsibility’ of Jews and  Christians to establish ‘the Kingdom of God’. By this he means that American  Christians and Jews should work to establish shari’ah law and the rule of Islam  in the United States.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p align="justify">‘Isa (Jesus) of the Qur’an is a product of fable, imagination  and ignorance. When Muslims venerate this ‘Isa, they have someone different in  mind from the Yeshua or Jesus of the Bible and of history. The ‘Isa of the  Qur’an is based on no recognized form of historical evidence, but on fables  current in seventh century Arabia.</p>
<p align="justify">For most faithful Muslims ‘Isa is the only Jesus they know. But  if one accepts this Muslim ‘Jesus’, then one also accepts the Qur’an: one  accepts Islam. Belief in this ‘Isa is won at the cost of the libel that Jews and  Christians have corrupted their scriptures, a charge that is without historical  support. Belief in this ‘Isa implies that much of Christian and Jewish history  is in fact Islamic history.</p>
<p align="justify">The Jesus of the gospels is the base upon which Christianity  developed. By Islamicizing him, and making of him a Muslim prophet who preached  the Qur’an, Islam destroys Christianity and takes over all its history. It does  the same to Judaism.</p>
<p align="justify">In the end times as described by Muhammad, ‘Isa becomes a  warrior who will return with his sword and lance. He will destroy the Christian  religion and make Islam the only religion in all the world. Finally at the last  judgement he will condemn Christians to hell for believing in the crucifixion  and the incarnation.</p>
<p align="justify">This final act of the Muslim ‘Isa reflects Islam’s apologetic  strategy in relation to Christianity, which is to deny the Yeshua of history,  and replace him with a facsimile of Muhammad, so that nothing remains but  Islam.</p>
<blockquote>
<p align="justify">&#8220;The Muslim supersessionist current claims that the whole  biblical history of Israel and Christianity is Islamic history, that all the  Prophets, Kings of Israel and Judea, and Jesus were Muslims. That the People of  the Book should dare to challenge this statement is intolerable arrogance for an  Islamic theologian. Jews and Christians are thus deprived of their Holy  Scriptures and of their salvific value.&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">— Bat Ye’or in <em>Islam and Dhimmitude: where civilizations  collide</em>, p.370.</p>
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